The APC operators decided to fire their canisters on each other to remove the Viet Cong, as they were too close for an APC to clear from itself. discipline in battle. It resulted in a US/ARVN victory. Explore gatherings, speakers and events. Following this operation the aircraft would pass to the 3/47th for a similar operation. The South Vietnamese forces enjoyed a 4-1 numerical advantage in the Battle of AP Bac II, in AP Bac Hamlet, CAN/GUIOC District, Long An Province. The enemy has demonstrated time and again that merely killing his troops does us little or no good, for he is able to quickly recruit more. So far as the battalion commander of the 3/60th was concerned, all his chips were in the pot. At 23:10, Captain Alcala reported that firing had ended and that infrared equipment was being used to detect the communists. However, if the core of these units, who are irreplaceable, can be captured or killed, the efficiency of these units must begin to wane. At this point, the situation was confused, and the brigade commander was unhappy. Explore our catalog and purchase official MRFA gear here. These guys? The Battle of Ap Bac was a major battle fought on January 3, 1963, during the Vietnam War. It was fought in Dinh Tuong Province (now part of Tin Giang Province ), South Vietnam. On December 28, 1962, U.S. intelligence detected the presence of a radio transmitter along with a sizable force of National Front for Releases, Administrative Become a member of MRFA! [1]:1067[2]:37 Artillery and air support could not be used initially due to confusion over the location of the 4/47th Platoons, but from 12:00 helicopter gunship and artillery fire began to supplement the fire from small arms and nearby patrol craft. Such is the aftermath of violent combat. Without further delay, the commanding officer of the 3/60th ordered the attack to go in without the artillery. WebThe Battle of Ap Bac, Vietnam They Did Everything But Learn From It By David M. Toczek Subject: Clear the Decks 50% - 90% OFF | General Military & Naval History | Vietnam We served more like the people that trained in WWII. Learn about the association, Board Members, Officers, and download a membership application form! 17 September 1967: 3rd-47th Op TF Funston 4th-47th Inf comes afloat. Alcala sent a tank out of the perimeter to help. Despite the disparity of numbers and weapons, the Viet Members of 4/47 9th Infantry Division remember, reflect on life, those lost. He adopted a conventional formation of two battalions advancing abreast, the 3rd Battalion, 60th Infantry, on the west, the 3rd Battalion, 47th Infantry on the east, with Highway 4 as a line of departure. It was the day after Fathers Day, June 19, 1967. Department of State, U.S. Information obtained from a captured Viet Cong assessment of the battle The quarry this time was a concentration of guerrillas near the village of September 1966: 1st Coronado Conference, 9th Infantry Division there are days. While they crawled, they replenished their dwindling ammunition supply from the fallen. But one officer, John Paul Vann, saw darker omens for the futureand in the Battle of Ap Bac, the Viet Cong proved him correct. The men then began Advanced Infantry Training, a highly specialized program for their operational designation the Mekong Delta in southern Vietnam. Darkness finally came to the rice paddies of Dien Thoung Province in the Mekong Delta of Vietnam, but it came slowly. Heaviest casualties to date Co-A-4th-47th takes The brigade commander ordered the assault as soon as the air strike, then in progress, was finished. Afterwards, American advisers were to say that the Viet Cong soldiers at Bac and Tan Thoi were the most determined Communist fighters they had encountered in more than one year. [4], The Americans concluded that the communist mortar positions were 1.52 kilometers west of Ap Bau Bang in and around an old village that had been destroyed. In addition, some men were having trouble with their rifles, due to the terrific volume of the fire they were pouring out. the Secretary of State, Travels of 16 February thru mid May 1967: 2nd brigade maintains forces operating in RSSZ in conjunction with TF-117, normally keeping one battalion committed. Nearly wipes out 514th Main Force Viet Cong Battalion Even though the general location of the enemy was known, the excellent camouflage and small holes customarily used by the Viet Cong made it impossible to spot exact fire positions until very close to them. The attacking force was stopped within 15m of the perimeter. Operation Concordia was an operation conducted by the U.S. The Battle at Ap Bac Changed Americas View of the Vietnam War by dnewbold 7/25/2006 On January 3,1963, several American war correspondents approached General Paul D. Harkins to ask what he thought about the battle the 7th Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) Division had just fought at a village named Bac. preparation, motivation, and [Page 2] Viet-Nam: Current American Concern and Misunderstanding; National We welcome content contributions! The whole battalion lost about 47 total. The perimeter was manned on the west by the 1st Platoon, commanded by First Lieutenant Roger A. Festa and to the east by the 3rd Platoon under Second Lieutenant Hiram M. Wolfe, IV.[3]. Explore a glossary of terms, manuals, statistics, historical accounts and reports, maps and articles by MRFA members. 28 July-2 August 1967: Coronado II. Howitzers in direct support of each assaulting company, and under the control of the commanders concerned. Fire was immediately returned and the enemy automatic rifle gunner was killed; however, he was quickly replaced by another, who continued to fire on the exposed squad and within minutes all who had crossed the stream were casualties. c. MRB most distance to date. The entire crew was wounded and evacuated. If we were going to win, the enemy must soon begin to break and run. realize that bad news about American casualties filed immediately by There was a huge explosion, an artillery round probably, and I woke up back here in the states about three weeks later.. We knew they were there. 2 May 1967: Battle of Ap Bac, not riverine, but most significant battle fought to date by 2nd Brigade. December 1966: 2nd Coronado Conference Lieutenant Heller and his fellow soldiers in Bravo Company, 4th Battalion, were the closest to Alpha Companys position and scrambled to provide support. Even though all the enemy in the immediate vicinitymore than 100 of themwere dead, there was no assurance that others might not be around, and prudence demanded being prepared for any eventuality. In the background could be heard the steady beat of helicopter blades as the choppers brought in supplies and took out casualties. This time, darkness would provide no convenient cover for their escape. For the 3rd Battalion, 60th Infantry, it looked like another dry hole. Palm Beach, January 7; ibid.) Operation Concordia was an operation conducted by the U.S. Suddenly enemy troops began jumping out of their holes and attempted to escape. [5] At the same time the 1st Platoon of B Troop moved down Route 13 from its position eight kilometers north. Archives and Records Administration, RG Moving into the perimeter, the platoon took up positions between A Troop's vehicles on the western half of the defensive ring. [5], At the same time, the 2nd Platoon returned along Route 13 from its ambush site, the men firing intermittently as they came. During the three-day battle, 47 American soldiers were killed, including one from Hellers company, Ronald Chili Saiz. I yelled for a medic and one ran across the field.. Moving aggressively, the company closed on the enemy, killed several and forced the others to flee to the north. Losses in the 3/47th were more severe. During the three-day battle, 47 American soldiers were killed, including one from Hellers company, Ronald Chili Saiz. morale-building victory. WebThe Battle of p Bc was a major battle fought on January 3, 1963, during the Vietnam War. By 04:50 flares and tank searchlights detected that the Viet Cong were massing for an attack on the south and southeastern sides of the base. The Battle of Ap Bac was the first significant engagement between tenets of North and South Vietnam. We welcome content contributions! 63037 from General C.V. Clifton 11-12 June 1967: Relocate to NHA Be. 5-17 August 1967: RSSZ operations. Their mission was to secure the base for B Battery (105-mm.) Meanwhile, the battalion commander of the 3/60th was experiencing great difficulty in getting the artillery fire support needed for his assaulting companies. Three VC were killed and the others fled to the south. On the north, the mechanized company moved forward at about ten miles an hour in a general line, while hosing down the countryside with .50 caliber-fire. Almost form the moment it crossed the line of departure, it had begun to meet fire. distorted both the importance of the action and the damage suffered by escaped with minor losses. The paddies were mostly dry and easily supported the weight of an armored personnel carrier. Report. response to his concern. document.write ("?zoneid="+zoneId+"&block=1&blockcampaign=1"); Country Series, 1/63) On January 7, President Kennedy expressed concern about the c. Biggest US operation ever held in the Delta. For many of the Tornados, June 19 was the last day they would see each other in the war zone. 0000008029 00000 n During the battle, 29 US air strikes delivered 29 tons of ordnance, and American artillery fired nearly 3,000 rounds. Three American advisers were killed in the This answer is: even at this time when American casualties are mounting. (Alert on (Initially 3rd-Bn 47th Inf then 4th-Bn, 47th Inf) 0000001392 00000 n This day they got a bear by the tail and they didnt let WebThe battle of Ap Bac, Vietnam, 2007. found : Wikipedia, viewed Apr. Americans lost, there is good news which you may not read about in The Washington Post. He pointed to a number of 13-17 June 1967: Operations in southern NHOM TRACH, including attach I-10 Headquarters. In the twilight, groups of soldiers moved about the battlefield seeking enemy survivors and collecting arms. Memorials and museums dedicated to the Mobile Riverine Force. of the Secretaries of State, Travels of We were fortunate in that we were attacking a known position, Heller said. f. By agreement with 7th ARVN, MRF had a VN Ranger Battalion as MRF reserve and employed it in combat. Each infantry Battalion operates one week in RSSZ and trains one week at VAN KEP Training Center at BARIA in PHOUC TUY Province. Close to the perimeter, Haszard's APC was disabled by a communist hit. document.write (document.charset ? We looked across the field and saw a lot of bodies, recalled platoon chaplain Charlie Zies. When I got hit, I had just gotten back to the chopper with some of the wounded, he said. are occurring more frequently. (National Defense University, Taylor Papers, T-182-67). concluded that the operation was a failure. This was the plan finally coordinated on the evening of 1 May 1967. Because of that, we knew each other very well, and kept in touch with each other. Sheehan article published that day which indicated that the South 0000000016 00000 n He gave Alcala permission to recall his 2nd Platoon from the ambush site to the perimeter. Guerra de Vietnam; Guerras de descolonizacin en Asia Parte de Guerra Fra: De izquierda a derecha y de arriba abajo: operaciones de combate de Estados Unidos En Ia rng, ARVN Rangers que defienden a Saign durante la Ofensiva del Tet de 1968, dos Douglas A-4 Skyhawk despus del incidente del golfo de Tonkn, ARVN recuperan Qung Tr durante la Ofensiva de to the Joint Chiefs at the end of January, see Document 26. Vietnamese forces, and concluded: It also hurts here when irresponsible States adviser to the Seventh Division of the Army of the Republic of The rest of the company dug in on the south side of the stream and continued to blast the area with fire from artillery and small arms. In addition, farmhouses were scattered throughout the rice paddy terrain. By mid May this builds to full RAS at Dong Tam, while continuing operations in RSSZ, from base at Vung Tau. Company A, 3/60th, which had been behind but south of Company B, continued to advance along the stream and the road which formed the line of contact farther to the east. try to rescue their pals. Like any engagements in war, Harkins concluded, there are days-and A full archive of past and present "River Currents" newsletters from your friends at MRFA. As they took their positions, they were hit with recoilless rifle fire and grenades. (Telegram 662 to In short, a nice, tidy plan had gone awry. b. With the help of artillery and air strikes, as well as flares and aerial searchlights to spot their enemies, the Americans repelled the communists with ease. At the brigade commanders suggestion, it was decided to lay a heavy volume of smoke on the area, using a battery of 155-mm. and helicopters. Companies B and C continued attacking east, while Company A moved into a blocking position to the north. 0000000668 00000 n the President, Visits by Foreign Heads There is no question that, had the 2nd Brigade waited until dark, the enemy force, or most of it, would have slipped out. Vietnamese forces at Ap Bac had made a number of errors, but he Diplomatic Couriers, Guide to Country Recognition and They claimed 227 communist killed and captured three, while losing only 3 and suffering 63 wounded. The situation was such that no fire from air or artillery could be utilized due to the nearness of the opposing combatants. Links to friends, affiliates and other sites you should visit! Heavy harassment of route 4. Considered small-scale action, Ap Bac was fought on January 2, 1963, in the hamlet (ap in Vietnamese) of Bac. That is a huge, huge loss., Lieutenant Heller and his fellow soldiers in . The assault by the 60th Infantrys Wild Ones on a Viet Cong stronghold in the Mekong was the kind you see in the movies or on the blackboard, but rarely in actual combat. Also 1 company operation each week in RSSZ. The main attack came from the south and southwest, accompanied by a secondary attack from the north. Meanwhile, the two companies already on the line of departure would begin the operation by advancing to a series of objectives to the north. True, our division G2 had indicated that a sizeable enemy force was in the Ap Bac area. [4], The communists increased their intensity and two M113s were hit directly, wounding several Americans and destroying the vehicle. Originally, our 2nd Brigade, 9th Infantry Division, had been promised two helicopter companies for the operation; however, late on the day before the operation began, one of these was withdrawn. assessment of the battle by Neil General, Status of the A relatively small engagement that had major media, political, and policy implications, the Battle of Ap Bac took place between Viet Cong (VC) and Army of the Republic of Viet Nam (ARVN) forces on January 2, 1963. at the White House to General Godfrey T. McHugh with the President at [7], Following the battle, General Hay wrote a propaganda letter to the 9th Vietcong Division commander, taunting him about the communist defeat. 6th US Battalions committed. Department, Buildings of the D. Kennedy, John startxref You play a dangerous game, and people get hurt. One enemy soldier was beaten to death by a soldier who used his steel helmet, and another was stabbed to death, thus indicating the ferocity of the assault. var m3_r = Math.floor(Math.random()*99999999999); The intent was to bring the artillery fire on the enemys positions and then advance the infantry to as close as possible under cover of this fire, crawling the last few yards in the case of Company A. Sheehan in which he wrote that angry United States Haszard was fired on as he left the APC to attach the towline. trailer Neil if (!document.MAX_used) document.MAX_used = ','; D. Gilpatric, Roswell A friend is a person that would be standing by your side, even if he knew it was going to cost him his life. As the second group, under the platoon sergeant, began moving down the dike, the lead man, a squad leader, was killed by fire form a foxhole along the dike. 1 June 1967: MRB arrives at Dong Tam. Explore our Navy section: awards, stories, points of interest, origin of navy terminology and much, much more! Many of their large haystacks concealed bunkers. Shortly after it moved into position, a six-man Viet Cong force was engaged. Thirteen men had died in the little pasture and many more had been wounded. [1] The mortars fired from afar while a large number of infantrymen dressed in black charged from the foliage. The probe was spearheaded by a herd of fifteen belled cattle being driven across Route 13 at a point 150 meters northeast of the perimeter. It was the first time at the reunion for both. By 11:50 Company C 3/47th Infantry had swept the area but failed to locate any VC, however Company C, 4/47th Infantry encountered VC positions as they moved west. [1]:108. At the same time, he recalled the personnel carrier company (Company C, 5/60th) from its barren search farther to the west and began moving it toward the point of contact. Felt noted that it was important to By 1600, everything was ready for the coordinated attack. In front of the platoon was the small pasture where the lead squad of Company A, 3/47th, had been destroyed earlier. indicated that the Viet Cong attributed their success at Ap Bac to 'https://powellbanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php':'http://powellbanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php'); They came to know each other. We looked across the field and saw a lot of Series, History of the 16 February 1967: 2nd Bde puts one battalion into RSSZ, working with advance party of TF-117. We had great food, great company; it was just wonderful. Vietnam, filed an after-action report on the Ap Bac operation which [5], At 03:00 another attack began on the southern perimeter. Then a helicopter came in to pick up the wounded; the second helicopter came in and was shot down.. of State, World War I and the Thus, the battle ended. 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